October 28, 2012

  • Familiarizing Foreign

    Everyone has their oasises and ideals.  However, sometimes it is important to share just what it is we’re refering to… to actualize  away the magic within words conjuring and homp…there it is.  a seedier strip mall hole in the wall joint that for whatever reason seems to change it’s name once or twice a tax season….and or ownership/management.  I am not Vietnamese and aside from what the difference between a spring roll and an eggroll are, I’m not really on the case what is happening for dinner.  This IS OKAY!  let’s Familerize the Foreign… to me.

     

    Vietnam is a country far far away in southeast Asia.  in my parents and grandparentls time it was  unsuccessfully colonized by the french and later due to political interests wwas attempted to be made a democracy or puppet of others… while it took years and I mean half my lifetime’s worth – the country unified as a communistic country which in a way fits as so is it’s big neighbor china.  Ethnically and Heritalogically speaking… here’s a DUH, the people are?  Vietnames.  Like all people they get hungry and want food.  so they must eat and wow…another duh… they don’t do it like others do!

     

    I don’t have time to decipher the whole of an encyclopedia article  or length and breadth of a culture’s cuisine- but I’m going to warn you- it looked like a whole lot of foreign to me  until I came across this other blog with a dish similarly named to what I had the other night but looked far far different.  this is not surprising as local ingredients vary and also  it isn’t unheard of that people say something is in a “style of” rather than an exacting match.

    I had a bun dish.

    no, I didn’t have a bowl of rump.  I had bun, not bread persay but bun  rice vermicelli.

    bun from what I read means noodles rice.. but that website as it’s only fair you read what I did.

    http://behindtheskillet.blogspot.com/2009/08/rice-vermicelli-with-grilled-shrimp-bun.html

    this above link is to behind the skillet for a dish

    http://thefoodaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/shrimp_vermicelli01.jpg

    rice vermicelli with grilled shrimp

    bún tôm nướng

    yes this is a simplistic google powered translation of english from vietnamese of bun – rice noodle; tom shrimp; and nuong grilled.  now I mentioned that the vietnamese had themselves a boot out the foreigners couple of shoot ‘em up parties but the french like the americans leave inroads and borrowed words and in the case of the bun tom nuong which I can not pronounce correctly bun as i burger bun, tom as in tom cat and nu ong  hmn nwong – the sound of someone expressing their discontent of my butchering their native language with a pot upside my head.  but the point is the french did bring about the use of the more western style with a few additional characters required for complete duplication of the sounds of the language… thus sorry to disappoint but I can not give you some fancy charactered foreign for the dish I do not know enough to do so and it’s not actually correct anymore anyways.   but lets look at  other differences within the same.

     

     

    to me this same dish looks enirely different.  it’s not.

    the recipes however, can be.

    http://www.phamfatale.com/id_3060/title_Bun-Thit-Nuong-Recipe

    take out the pork/crab/steak no wheredoes thisdish give me the impresssion of fish sauce…. that doesnt JIVE with my mouth’s experience.

     

    sorry but not a speaker of vietnamese so long link

    http://recipes4viet.com/mon-nuong/bun-tom-nuong

    translate

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=vi&u=http://recipes4viet.com/mon-nuong/bun-tom-nuong&prev=/search%3Fq%3Db%25C3%25BAn%2Bt%25C3%25B4m%2Bn%25C6%25B0%25E1%25BB%259Bng%2Brecipe%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3DUss%26channel%3Dfs%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=CW-NUN3bCaOWiAKspoHABg&ved=0CDUQ7gEwAg

    note how close but still foreign this is? pepper hash – HUNH????

    from cooks.com

    perhaps this is what they mean!

    1 med. cabbage
    2 green peppers
    1 tbsp. celery seed
    1 1/2 c. sugar
    1 1/2 c. water
    3 red peppers
    1 tbsp. salt
    2 tbsp. mustard1 seed
    1 1/2 c. vinegar

     
     

     

    thats as close as are veggies here and  what the hell this stuff is.  yes – thus this is not just in the style of, but also americanized. deal with it.

     

    a good recipe close to what I got:

    http://behindtheskillet.blogspot.com/2009/08/rice-vermicelli-with-grilled-shrimp-bun.html

    again

    bun tom nuong

     

    http://www.farmersmarketinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/basil1.jpg

    basil or thai basil ifavail.

    http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/what-is-cilantro-1.jpg

    cilantro (chinese parsley, the seeds are coriander)

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rWcpIGw4V4w/Se41NtXEb-I/AAAAAAAAFhw/5I-WEN8Jqis/s400/bean+sprouts3.jpg

    bean sprouts

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xOm7XSwxYcw/TKA_h-JT0RI/AAAAAAAABds/KwCSGNAv_jQ/s1600/red+chilli.jpg

    red pepper (watch it.)

     (Dehydrated Toasted-Onion Kibbled)

    crispy fried onion

    sub toasted dried onion

    Zoom View - Onion Flakes

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    http://mediaserver02.stockfood.com/thumbs/NDEyMTQ0Nw==/00374677.jpg

    cucumber

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Reisnudeln.JPG/220px-Reisnudeln.JPG

    rice vermicelli

    tiger shrimp if you can

    missing is? the fish sauce so – a light one (wicked salt watch it)

    http://vietworldkitchen.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341ef22f53ef0105362f4758970b-320pi

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    recipe?

    http://behindtheskillet.blogspot.com/2009/08/rice-vermicelli-with-grilled-shrimp-bun.html

     

    The point is, that a lil bit of research can make something  very much findable  with stuff typicallyfor the most part recognized easy to understand… do try to follow as you find them your joys with those who know a different world than yours.  for my part I may makethis dish as I like it and can figure out the simplest version I can manage.  this dish with an electric kettle pot collender  knife or food processor  is fairly easy as you can drain the noodle and cook the marinated  shrimp. voila less dishes and the kettle brings up water faster than a stove top so you could be eating in literally less than thirty minutes.  do investigate what style means.  it can be close while you enjoy outtings to “authentic’ 

    oh and hin tgot sambal oulek? add a pinch of sugar for siracha.  the label difference ;)

    and?take away the noodles and add common lettuce? you’ve a shrimp salad -eat the noodles you noodle doodle! – wrap this up (chop some) in rice paper? spring rolllllllll!

Comments (14)

  • My French teacher was Vietnamese, and she made spring rolls and quiche and other things French and Vietnamese. It was great. She never ate, but welcomed everyone to eat. I have been blessed to have met her.

  • @sleekpunk - :)  but thelines you didn’t read between! ( think youcan andmight make this? )

  • I shouldn’t come to your site late at night because it always makes me hungry

  • Southeast Asian food is the best int he world and in that category I prefer Vietnamese.
    Bun is pronounced to rhyme the oo with the oo in boot.Viet Nam is like Central America in that candy grows on trees. There are many different kinds of really delicious tree and palm fruits just about everywhere, and even cactus fruit.

  • @cafengocmy -  lolI somehow expected this :) :) thank you for the language lesson. boon? ( bun) is mmm

  • Bún with an up tone. Say the word as if it were a question.

  • @cafengocmy - :) which sound? – you  oo or up? and with  a question like tone. first word lol figures it’d be a dinner one :)

  • Most of the countries in SE Asia, will pronounce the letter U as oo, and the letter O as oh. So it is not difficult for me to read what you have written. I love the food from the Asian countries. The pictures are beautiful.

  • i forgot to tell you, now hungry for asian food, and then i forgot, and then we went out for gyros and they were good and if there was room in the tummy, i would be hungry for asian again ;)  

  • @ZSA_MD - Thank you – I try even with my tin ear for language.  I scoured  4 visual seearch engines to try after some pretty prettys….an extra effort.     interestingly, I never liked spring rolls first try – so this is a fair way to say I had a good experience this go around :)   it’s nice to develop an appreciation for things that may not be my favorite at first…. it’s rewarding.

  • @Bels_Kaylar - lol I went out tonight to a nice new place – GREAT MILD! mexican  so good i took mom for dinner- problem was even though we wplit a dish lol I am having difficulties with the room for yummy beer. :D   – ohand :) if you can sometime?   logan / lingon berry jam with a dah of hot sauce and a 3 dash of soy sauce to thin some makes one hell of a dipping sauce for spring rolls. ;)

  • @starmanjones - that’s cool, that you found a place that both you and the mother-unit can share ;)  

  • Starman, you’re always posting about food or cerebral stuff, both I can eat up. Man, I skipped dinner. In any case, hope you had a good time this holiday, and Happy Halloween ! [Card]

  • @dw817 - http://www.medievalcookery.com/dictionary/images/Aframomum_melegueta.jpg

    you know, so I can “snap back”  it’s a plant diagram of aligator pepper *grains of paradise is the current fancy name…if you get it and it’s a warm pepper biting.. it’s great on salads but do not cook with it or put on overly hot foods as such diminishes it’s flavor greatlyswiftly. the experience isn’t all that different

    although the taste is

    of chewing a fennel seed

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