@SherryAngeLMysteriez - following the axiom that often me trying means I’ve tried too hard- meaning I neveer fare well being mr health guru – which means i cook not chef- as the logic goes… I try to avoid a life of beer as its too costly.  soda is ultimatedly a savings but far worse sugar control-wise be it diet or reguular soda actually too, I just go hmn, plod along knowing I like your idea better but its far more of a treat (coffee never sat as well in me as tea and neither sit well enough that I could drink one little cup be happy and done- I’m just not meant to be an epicure this life.  however if I could suck down near anything with abandon, my favorite is sasafras tea, foamy rootbeer is good but tea ambrosial.  cola second.

@HappierHeathen - cackles

@moniet - oh lol in the end analysis – its taste – I find glass beautiful – I’d point you to pbs heart of glass, or a smaller vid, the opening of star trek generations…. the interstellar flying chapagne bottle innaugerating a ship.  but I have some  limitations – i cant so easily wrap my head  around blowing  glass great vid on a reverse axis vase! or the boring cast glass mold.  simple cork bjork! (not the group but the sound like voila) bottle!  but I can wwrap my head around a can – a far more expensive process for a cheaper result yes, but one safer and more practical.  – why that discourse?  why would i care?  I know enough of business to remember that most often its not the initial goal but the means chosen to reach forward that leaves open possibilities.  I had a dream 18 years back of brewing apple cider.  I put bread yeast in a jug of the stuff, stashed it in the best temperature control i had ( water bed) (admittedly far too warm for the task but controlled meaning whatever i got would be more easily repeated.  brewed filtered and drak my jungle juice which had alcoho.l, and alarmed the folks overseeing, didn’t blind or otherwise poison me… yay.  why not make more? a life’s more.  I later got a lucky run of information on every facet of business toward this including how to make m-10 rootstock control the tree height into safe for hates heights ladders me.  I learned that the taxes associated with the project and the lack of a defined brand thus a factors less charge meant the dream of applejacking for a living is without doubt dead. I can not manage that scale required.  I would make 24k a year with 48-52 k in expenses out-  even if that problem is solved I found that apples are far less valuable as booze than as apple pie even at 3.99 a pie commercial rate I could mathmatically break even with one key – tourism / the bed and breakfast.  so, hospitality was the money, not brewing yet the biggest reason to visit is brewing on a symbolic scale.  or the dream is dead long live the dream.  liken this to pacific salmon- its dead or a loss to keep up thanks to the columbia dammed into past much of the spawning range but note how people talk about salmon mmmmmm so its kept not viable but ran as a loss to get folks in even though the real money is industry.  —- to cut this off some  a can or bag in the box – they sell so does booze but the real money is hospitality and uniqueness – however one has to consider scale – if one is too small there is too much ease in being shut down for the convenience of others profit – easy really say I’m unsanitary – there goes the works… you try prooving process is safe on a small scale which by nature varies… also you try pulling 50-100 million dollar loans to buy a 2 part aluminum can line… go ahead! but you find a workably kitch steel can line and you have distinctive marketing on a budget in a factory setting with controls to manage risk with a cappital value that now is political as sustaining such a business now is part of a town’s livelihood.  money talks   but such cuts.  cans dont romance yet sell far more cheaper for a larger overall profit.  such though means fierce choices.  there goes the snobs it isn’t glass it immediately is swill for low life poor people   but this is kitch- so what 300 thousand support 15  at rates we all willingly choose.  i’d not mind a distinctive tine or can of something good and affordable.  I still to this day buy coors though it was scab in the day yet employed my dad. it ‘s owners denegrated latinos then to the point 25 years later many of my friends refuse it vehemently.  yet I’m here because the place had insurance enough that a hospital finder family survived enough for me to try schooling and work when that didn’t pan.  I ate and such- I gratefully still buy rocky mountain piss water.  I choose to like it – but what makes beer or these vehement stances choices?  well at least one thing more than any defines craft beer and commercial, the filtration.  a commercial beer is far more refined and thus safer controlled and such- but the magic mouth crunch of great beer interestingly is the impurity allowed.  g.e. heilmans maker of old style and colt fourty-five neither premium in this area is the only naturally carbonated line still running or one that isn’t “that big”  people still flock to disgustingly heavy samuel smiths oatmeal stouts that pour like pancake syrup…at 8 buck a 12 oz serving at once I saw it priced for hog swill. yet a crappy coors was 7 bucks a sixpack sorta premium beer priced.  kids like the strong not ttheeir fathers crap beer that is about as close to eating sterno as possible.  not light crisp cold and refreshing.  but either way placing one’s self helps being aware that my dream may die and cold hard business says find the dollar  protect that dollar… means have room to own 2000 bucks oh hell no 200,000 helps in saleable prices times to leverage millions with luck and a little more distance when or if the ship goes down for safety   so, just testing to see who hates cans  or who likes whatever – scientifically I won. cans rock, disgusting as it sounds more beer poured through a potted plant sells than pancake syrup slop more people want repeatable affordable goodness and a job than uncertain dreamy crap. 

@godfatherofgreenbay - Iawait thesereasn why?

@moniet - :) gd beer and kitchen sinkpizzas?/mmmm